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And here they are, the cheater guests that managed to sneak out without paying their bill and our former agent who kept some money for himself
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And here they are, the cheater guests that managed to sneak out without paying their bill and our former agent who kept some money for himself:

Timothy Mc Brown, black, US-citizen, stayed here Feb. 3 and 4, 2014, sneaked out before 6 AM in the dark and did not pay 1000 Peso (only 17 €) for room upgrade.

Naif ALQahtani, 31311 Al-Ahsa, Al Hasa, Saudi-Arabian citizen, Email vip66688814@gmail.com stayed here Oct. 13 to 15, 2014 and got a special half price rate of only 2500 Peso for 2 days. He was very friendly, told me even "that I am his brother" to achieve what he wanted. He said that he will leave on Oct. 15 around
4 pm and if he can leave his baggage in the Apartment until then. I agreed but he did not show up until then. Around 10 PM he had been there but left again. At 3 AM on October 16, 2014 he was sleeping in the Apartment again. So which Allah-believing Muslim will cheat his "brother"
(me) and not pay for an additional night? But the Allah-believing must not be so serious since he sneaked out before 6 AM in the dark and did not pay 2490 Peso for his 3. night stay. What archaic penalty has the Islam for that, cutting off of his hand or head or stoning maybe?? No wonder that
nobody likes Muslims, with this behaviour it just became one more: Your "brother", but I will revert that if he paid..... I asked him by email if he does not feel ashamed having to cheat "his brother" for a mere 55 US $.

As soon as you paid your debt your name will be removed from this website.

Todd Nation, Vacation Consultant, BORACAY+63 917 502 7681, Onboracay.com, hotelsonboracay.com, boracayvacationrental.com

Todd Nation, born 1977, U.S. citizen of New York, N.Y. +1-917-902-4186, in 2012 acted as one of our agents to rent out our Apartments. The 4200 US $ rental of a certain Vince O. that became his last rental with us he did not fully pay, there are 832 US $ remaining to be paid. This guest Vince O. certified to us in writing with his signature: "I paid to Todd Nation the sum of 4200 US $ for 5 Apartment rent from Dec. 24 to 31, 2012 at Sunrise Palais. I booked only this Sunrise Palais, nothing else. Signed Vince O. , Dec.31, 2012, followed by his emailaddress." Todd Nation pretends that he does not have to pay that fully because he shifted people which rented these rooms earlier (with only 2 overlapping days) to another location, at the same time he admits that he, the rental agent is responsible for that, and he also stated the amount of 130490 PHP he would pay but later simply decided not to pay anymore, see emails below. We tried to have him appearing at the local barangay kapitan of Boracay for several months but he always let his housemaids deny that he is living there where the barangay officials tried to deliver their notes, also because his business operation is illegal and not registered with the Philippine authorities (and possibly also not with the U.S. authorities like Internal Revenue Service etc.) like Barangay Mayor, Dept.of Trade and Industry, Bureau of Internal Revenue and many more. Finally, on Feb. 20, 2014 he did appear there because one week later they would have arrested and brought him there. The barangay kapitana tried to negotiate between us and during that Todd Nation was so kind to offer to hit me in my face right there in the barangay office in presence of the barangay kapitan and her two secretaries. He continued denying that he has an unpaid debt to us because he shifted these guest around and also thinks that he could rent out our Apartments at any archieveable price above the agreed 600 $ for his own profit only. Since he complains that I am spreading bad things about him about not paying his debts I made it public now here so everybody may just read below to judge the case. Funny is also his "ethical" falsifying of a current offer at Flipkey (flipkey.com/boracay-vacation-rentals/p350315/ if removed by Flipkey because we complained there you may still ask us for a screenshot) with a review meant for our Villa and not-so-funny anymore the fraud attempt of trying to collect for Apartments he did not have available in our Villa. The latest emails are on top, reading that is enough since I mentioned all relevant things in there but if you want to enjoy only a few of the many other emails he is bombarding us with you may read on. We removed the names and emailaddresses of the other guest for their privacy. I will update it here with more of his replies and remove the whole case as soon as he paid 832 US $ to us, so enjoy it as long as it is still here:



Latest email of October 22, 2014, now he is calling for help from mama and papa instead simply paying his debt:

Ludwig,
I take the act of Slandering my good name seriously and you should be aware of this. If you continue to bad mouth me, you will find yourself, in a real court with real legal fees and consequences. Both of my parents are retired attorneys with the worlds largest law firm Baker and Mckenzie and have
access to an branch office in Manila. Your money issues and very nature is petty. I emplore you to find it in your heart to accept the truth Which is that you were dealt with fairly and I ask that you rely on common sense rather than emotion to guide you hence forth,
Best Wishes

PS an apology would also be welcome and a retraction of any comments you have made to those closest to you.

Todd Nation
Vacation Consultant

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Am 2/22/2014 03:43 PM, schrieb info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com:
> My ever-dearest Todd:
>
> You wrote correctly below: "Whenever you upgrade or move a guest it is the responsibility for the booking agent to find a new home of equal or higher value."
>
> There we agree and that means that you are also responsible for any financial things out of that. Additionally, you also made more profit from the later booking so there is no reason not to pay our 75%.
>
> Interesting is to know how your "ethical business operation" explains the use of a false review ("amazing" and written for our villa) on a house that in the only other review was reviewed "terrible" (EDIT: See below, Flipkey removed his falsely (but ethically??) used review on Oct. 30,2014) and what about the Graham Co... case of still renting out our Apartments without being authorized anymore to do so and without having the intended Apartments for rent available?
> There you went just before payment would be initiated.
>
> Excerpt from your other email (try to include all in one email, I am loosing track if you write 4 answers for one of mine and also from different email accounts): "BTW I don't dislike you , I find you kind of charming and funny. But I don't think this matter of you speaking ill about me to people is very nice and I really don't like this action. I live on a very small island and I want to have a good relationship with everyone. Even you !"
> Also here I agree with even you! As soon as you paid the remaining 832 US $ the public making of this case so others can judge it by themselves will not happen (or, if paid later, be removed). Isn´t it silly by not paying a mere 832 $ to destroy the possibility to get that money back and even earning more my renting out our Villa? Simply pay it and everything is OK again, no bad feelings anymore.
>
> A friendly hint: Don´t let people laugh about your offers, they look much more professional if there are no spelling errors and especially no "Costumers" mentioned or the people might think they have to appear in a special mardi gras costume.....
>
> Your Dearest Sweet and Silly Lou.....
>
>
> Am 2/21/2014 04:39 PM, schrieb Todd@boracayvacationrental.com:
>> Dearest Sweet and Silly Lou,
>> maybe you are in the habit of booking something and then replacing an existing booking as it fits your financial needs and damn the guest. I don't work that way. When a guest has a reservation I honor that reservation. Period .The only exception to this would be if the guests agree to be upgraded or moved. And in this case those 2 nights represented 1600+usd as it fell on new years . Whenever you upgrade or move a guest it is the responsibility for the booking agent to find a new home of equal or higher value. This is how all ethical hospitality businesses operate. Perhaps in Germany they don't understand ethics but only money. However, in my universe and in the long term both ethics and money go hand in hand. Im sorry that you fail to grasp these concepts or perhaps you do and you are just not an ethical person.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:06 AM, info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com> wrote:
>>
>> My dear Todd:
>>
>> The booking you are referring to in your email from Oct. 23, 2012 is from Dec. 29, 2012 to Jan. 4, 2013. The booking in question that you did not pay fully was booked thru you on Nov. 17, 2012 and is from Dec. 24 to 31, 2012. There is an overlap of only 2 days so everybody in his right mind will of course assume that you do not consider that earlier booking anymore, why and how is your responsibility. It is obvious that both bookings have little to do which each other and that only the final booking Vince O.... counts and has to be paid for by you. If you moved the 2-day overlap guest somewhere else then that is only your problem, not ours and no reason for you telling us that you have to deduct money from the only relevant booking.
>>
>> The only interesting fact that counts is what I wrote to you and you verified to me is further down, I copied it here again for easier reading:
>>
>> "When you Remy made the booking in question with Vince Offer for Dec. 24 to 31, 2012, you personally called me and asked if that booking is OK, I asked you if the price is 600 $ per night and you confirmed that. Since I did not have anything in writing later I had to write you several times to get an answer to make sure that we will get 130690 Peso out of that deal and you or Todd clearly verified that amount here:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:31 PM, info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com> wrote:
>> Hello Todd:
>>
>> Let me know details about the Dec. 24 to 31 booking. I hope the below agreed amounts come out, right?
>>
>> (The agreed amount was 600 US $ for all 5 rooms per day)
>>
>>
>> Am 11/17/2012 8:45 PM, schrieb Todd@boracayvacationrental.com:
>> 24-31st all 5 studios confirmed , no date changes
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com> wrote:
>> OK, and total amount for us is 130690 Peso at 41P/$ and no use of the second floor agreed?
>>
>> (Here you were hesitant to answer, it took you 7 days to answer and the last sentence is what I needed so you could not pull out anymore!)
>>
>> Am 11/24/2012 7:13 AM, schrieb Todd@boracayvacationrental.com:
>> sorry , for some reason the reply was in draft, and until today my keyboard has been malfunctioning- i ordered a new one 1 month ago and got it today! , remys in manila with the 2 helpers so lots going on . you are correct about the second floor and the pricing"
>>
>> End of the previous emails.
>>
>> And no, we also did not give you a general allotment of all or some rooms you could sell at any price above the agreed price. You had to call for every intended booking and we had to agree to the price and you got 25% of that.
>>
>> Since you are telling us that we are spreading lies on Boracay about you not paying your debt, we will display the above emailconversation including Vince O.´s statement on our website sunrisepalaisboracay.com with your full name and addresses of your known websites. Then others might judge who is right and who not.
>>
>> I will also add the fraud attempt with Graham C. so people can judge you correctly.
>>
>> I will also notify the Philippine BIR and DTI and Boracay Mayors office about your illegal business operation without permit here in the Philippines and also the United States IRS.
>>
>> In all my life I never had to do with such a primitive person like you that threatened to hit me in my face even in front of the Barangays Kapitana while trying to negotiate, congratulations!
>>
>> You now have time until Monday, February 24, 2014, 12:00 noon to pay the remaining amount of 832 US $ in cash to prevent the above actions. You will receive an official receipt.
>>
>> While listing "your" (as you still pretend and also before pretended on our villa) "properties" for the authorities I found this listing: http://www.flipkey.com/boracay-vacation-rentals/p350315/ which is a house on Puka beach. One guest reviewed the house and you as terrible and another well-known to us guest and review Camille from Ottawa found it 3x Amazing. No wonder, she meant our villa because that was where she gave the review for, she stayed at our Villa from Feb. 15 to 19, 2012 and paid 1350 US $. You changed the content of that offer, previously our Villa to keep that good review! You had to do that because we threw you out. Hahahaha, Todd and Remy, you are and will always be cheaters!!! Don´t you feel ashamed? Since you are abusing a review of our Villa we will also publish this on our website.
>>
(EDITED OCT. 30, 2014: Flipkey finally removed the falsely used review of Camille Ottawa and moved it where it belongs: To our listing at Flipkey: https://www.flipkey.com/philippines-villa-rentals/p513470/ HOW SHAMEFUL having to use other reviews!)

>> Lou
>>
>> Sunrise Palais Boracay
>>
>>

>> Am 5/2/2013 03:57 PM, schrieb info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com:
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> Betreff: Re: Todd Nations debt of 832 US $
>>> Datum: Thu, 02 May 2013 00:52:05 -0700
>>> Von: Vince O. <vinceo.@squareoneent.com>
>>> An: info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com>
>>>
>>> Yeah I was the only one who stayed there with my family. I don't remember anything about the $1,000 that he's talking about.
>>> From: "info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com" <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 13:38:31 +0800
>>> To: Vince O. <vinceo.@squareoneent.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Todd Nations debt of 832 US $
>>> Hello Vince:
>>>
>>> OK, because Todd wrote me this nonsense he wrote to you:
>>> "Hi Vince, The owner of the home you stayed in at Boracay is trying to get more money out of me b/c a) he thinks everyone is out to cheat him and b)you signed something stating you paid 4200usd to stay at his place. Im sure you recall me rejecting your offer to rent the home twice. If you recall I told you the home was already booked when u called me. But with the number i set forth of 4200 i told you the house was yours and I would move the existing guests. Since I paid over $1000 of this money to switch these people to a home which had new years open. Please help me set this thunderhead straight and confirm you recall this.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Todd Nation"
>>>
>>> He never told me that he rented out the house to somebody else, he is just creating that to earn more money. Fact is that only you paid for your stay here and also stayed here. Please verify that to me again.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Lou
>>>
>>> Am 5/2/2013 1:15 PM, schrieb Vince O.:
>>>> Right well yes I hope you get your money.
>>>> It's not right he's not providing it to you. Next time I'll just go to you directly.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Vince
>>>> From: "info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com" <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 12:51:18 +0800
>>>> To: Vince O. <vinceo.@squareoneent.com>
>>>> Subject: Fwd: Todd Nations debt of 832 US $
>>>> Hello Vince:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to bother you again with this case. Todd Nation still did not pay until now and even tried to sell our Apartments when he was not allowed anymore. He got so far asking guest to transfer money to him but these guest were also in contact with us directly so we could prevent this fraud, see below.
>>>>
>>>> What we have is in this case from you is your wire transfer details:
>>>> Completed Wire Detail
>>>> Source Account 9118063... (Checking)
>>>> Amount $4,200.00
>>>> Beneficiary Todd A. Nation
>>>> Beneficiary Account 8-454-00070-7
>>>> Bank RIZAL COMMERCIAL BANKING CORPO
>>>> 333, SENATOR GIL. J. PUYAT AVENUE
>>>> MANILA
>>>> PHILIPPINES
>>>> SWIFT RCBCPHMM
>>>> Special Instructions Dec 24-31 rental home
>>>> Date 11/09/2012
>>>> Reference Number G0123141416801
>>>> Citibank Reference Number 3140246013
>>>> Set up by O. V. S.
>>>>
>>>> and you also verified that you stayed only here in the attachment, so there is nothing more to say. He can´t pull out, whatever he will try.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>> Betreff: Re: Your debt of 832 US $
>>>> Datum: Wed, 1 May 2013 12:26:03 -0400
>>>> Von: Todd@boracayvacationrental.com <nationtodd@gmail.com>
>>>> An: info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com>
>>>>
>>>> Lou , my records reflect i over paid you not underpaid, you are a tremendous thunder head who thinks EVERYONE is out to cheat you. You got this one wrong and you are making yourself look like a bigger and bigger arse than you already are. I didn't think that was achievable. Ill send you my flight details when i book a return flight:)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM, info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Todd:
>>>>
>>>> No answer, so we guess you want the arrest. Will be done directly at Kalibo or Caticlan Airport upon your return in October.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>> Betreff: Your debt of 832 US $
>>>> Datum: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:49:52 +0800
>>>> Von: info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com>
>>>> An: todd nation <nationtodd@gmail.com>, todd nation <nationtodd@yahoo.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Todd:
>>>>
>>>> Now we have to continue with our 832 US $ still due to us.
>>>>
>>>> We have these options:
>>>>
>>>> 1. All of us meeting at the Barangay captain to resolve this case, that does not make sure that you will finally also pay us. Both parties have to bring their Mayors permit, BIR and DTI registration so don´t forget yours.
>>>>
>>>> 2. We go to the police and file a case against you. They will immediately come and arrest you until you paid. You also have to keep your permits on hand.
>>>> This option we don´t really like to do to you, you are not that bad, maybe just mixed up all the bookings. But if you don´t leave us any choice, what can we do? So we will proceed with option 2.
>>>>
>>>> So the decision is yours, let us know.
>>>>
>>>> Below is the whole conversation that clearly shows that we are right, there is nothing more to say to defend you.
>>>>
>>>> Easiest way is to simply pay the 832 $ now.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>> Betreff: Re: Your debt of 832 US $
>>>> Datum: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:07:17 +0800
>>>> Von: info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com>
>>>> An: Todd@boracayvacationrental.com <nationtodd@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Remy:
>>>>
>>>> About the Vince O. case:
>>>>
>>>> When you Remy made the booking in question with Vince O. for Dec. 24 to 31, 2012, you personally called me and asked if that booking is OK, I asked you if the price is 600 $ per night and you confirmed that. Since I did not have anything in writing later I had to write you several times to get an answer to make sure that we will get 130690 Peso out of that deal and you or Todd clearly verified that amount here:
>>>>
>>>> "Am 11/24/2012 7:13 AM, schrieb Todd@boracayvacationrental.com:
>>>> sorry , for some reason the reply was in draft, and until today my keyboard has been malfunctioning- i ordered a new one 1 month ago and got it today! , remys in manila with the 2 helpers so lots going on . you are correct about the second floor and the pricing
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com> wrote:
>>>> OK, and total amount for us is 130690 Peso at 41P/$ and no use of the second floor agreed?
>>>>
>>>> Am 11/17/2012 8:45 PM, schrieb Todd@boracayvacationrental.com:
>>>> 24-31st all 5 studios confirmed , no date changes
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:31 PM, info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com <info@sunrisepalaisboracay.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Todd:
>>>>
>>>> Let me know details about the Dec. 24 to 31 booking. I hope the below agreed amounts come out, right?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So far with the debt of 832 US $ out of the Vince O. case. See attachment for his verification of the case.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> About your intended fraud with Graham C. where you say you did not intend to work with us anymore but strangely updated your booking calendar for our house on Jan. 16 on Flipkey.com and just wrote him this yesterday:
>>>> "On 30 Jan 2013, at 18:00, Luxury Vacations <rentyourholiday@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Graham,
>>>>
>>>> The dates was reserved but not paid, now are available for you.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Graham C. <grahamec.@me.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Are you sure the apartment is vacant on these dates?
>>>> Regards
>>>> Graham"
>>>>
>>>> After that he would have paid in advance for something that you do not have available for him. To me that is clearly fraud.
>>>>
>>>> And remember that I am not the only one who cancelled the business relationship with you, just think about B. Boracay/R. and T. The other ones only you know.
>>>>
>>>> This is the truth and that is very clear and there is nothing more to say except we still have to get 832 US $ out of that. Just pay that and everything is fine.
>>>>
>>>> I live by not doing to others what I do not want them to do to me: Cheating. And until now, it always worked best, no problems to solve, no anger and a happy life!
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>> Surnise Palais Boracay
>>>> Am 1/31/2013 8:34 AM, schrieb Todd@boracayvacationrental.com:
>>>>> LOu,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is Remy. Firstly, thank you for cancelling those listings for us I have been meaning to but I just haven't got a chance, you see we have been paying for it while we don't have the intention in working with you (thus, we haven't been sending anyone your way although we have been getting inquiries cause really it's no point working with you) - so you actually did as a favor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, you can say whatever you want but we have never cheated in anyone and have been very fair but you will never know that isn't it? because you refuse to look at the truth. I have look at the paper work and it's simply not for you to claim it's yours.... You're one that's not being fair... you think we should pay for the listing which by the way is not cheap, do all the work, accommodate and make everyone happy including you and at the end of the day you should claim our profit, you think that's fair??? Why don't you just go ahead, come to our house, claim everything and everyone in our house including my son they're yours - simply because your name was mentioned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, stop already we don't owe you money - be happy that we don't work with anymore like you said.
>>>>> If you think harassing us with your letter gets anything accomplished at all it's not, you are just being angry for nothing and meantime we will just continue with our merry ways!
>>>>>
>>>>> “Holding on to anger and resentment is like drinking poison and expecting someone else to die.”
>>>>>
>>>>> And finally, we conduct our business very fairly and whatever wrong assumptions you have, we don't care!
>>>>>
>>>>> Truly,
>>>>>
>>>>> Remy
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Todd Nation
>>>> Vacation Consultant
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We also have been betrayed by Mr. Dietmar Jürgens, residing at Tannenstr. 1 in 49536 Lienen in Germany, Ebay member name dueppeman. He offerred at Ebay.de what we needed: a "new Miele electronic, wrongly ordered, had been unwrapped but never been used" he lied in his offer. It took nearly 7 weeks until we had the part here in the Philippines and could test it in place of the still working current electronic: After connecting it with the foolproof plugs it did nothing at all! The current one back in - works, the defective one back in - nothing again. Also the usual protective cover of the display was gone already and when I finally removed the circuit board from it´s plastic holder black marks from uprising hot air showed already on the plastic indicating former prolonged use. So he really betrayed and sold us an used and defective electronic! That coward does not even like to look at the pictures, rejecting to give me his emailaddress and telling us that it needs to be programmed to the machine and even if so, might not work outside germany and finally that we messed it up! All nonsense, the first and the second electronic worked right away without all that. Thank you Mr. Dietmar Jürgens, this will stay here until you pay back the 107,60 Euro we paid you for used, defective garbage you sold us! He is selling lots of Miele stuff so he will know exactly where and why he got it and what is the condition of all this stuff. And in case Mr. Jürgens can not read and understand english, here his translation:
In diesem Zusammenhang wurden wir betrogen von Herrn Dietmar Jürgens, wohnhaft Tannenstr. 1 in 49536 Lienen in Deutschland, Ebay Mitgliedsname dueppeman. Er bot bei Ebay.de an was wir brauchten: Eine "neue Miele Elektronik, aus einer Falschbestellung, wurde ausgepackt, war aber nie im Einsatz" log er in diesem Angebot. Es brauchte fast 7 Wochen bis wir das Ersatzteil hier in den Philippinen hatten um es an Stelle der noch funktionierenden jetzigen Elektronik zu testen. Nach Anschluß mit den unverwechselbaren Steckern passierte gar nichts. Die vorherige Elektronik wieder rein - funktioniert. Die defekte wieder rein - wieder nichts. Auch war die übliche Schutzfolie des Displays nicht mehr vorhanden und wenn ich schließlich die Platine aus dem Plastikhalter entfernte zeigten sich schwarze Verfärbungen von aufsteigender heißer Luft am Plastikhalter als Nachweis längerer Benutzung. Er hat uns tatsächlich betrogen und uns eine gebrauchte deffekte Elektronik verkauft! Der Feigling will sich diese Bilder nicht mal ansehen, seine Emailadresse dazu nicht geben und schreibt uns daß die Elektronik auf die Maschine programmiert werden müsse und selbst dann evtl. nicht außerhalb Deutschlands funktionieren wird und daß wir daran herumgebastelt hätten! Alles Quatsch, die erste und die zweite Elektronik funktionierten sofort ohne all das. Danke Herr Dietmar Jürgens, dies wird hier stehen bis Sie die 107,60 Euro erstatten welche wir Ihnen für gebrauchten, defekten Müll bezahlt haben. Er verkauft viel von Miele also wird er auch genau wissen woher und warum er das bekommt und den Zustand des ganzen Zeugs.